Roundabout among options considered for Highway 83/C intersection


Highways C and 83, Salem
Constructing a roundabout is one of the alternatives under consideration by the state Department of Transportation for the Highway 83 and Highway C intersection in Salem.

The DOT announced this week that they will hold an informational open house next week to present improvement plans for the Highway 83/C intersection and the Highway 83/50/75 intersection, also know as Brass Ball Corners.

A roundabout is only being considered for the Highway 83/C intersection (Note: Corrected from earlier version — DH), said Brian DeNeve, a communications staffer with WisDOT.

“We are looking at improving that intersection as there is a high crash rate with a significant number of those being severe crashes,” DeNeve said in an email to westofthei.com.

The plans for Highway 83/50/75 in Paddock Lake will show new sidewalk/pedestrian accommodations through the intersection.

The meeting will take place in Salem Town Hall, 9814 Antioch Road, Salem on Thursday. Oct. 23, from 4 to 7 p.m. The meeting will be an informal, open house format. Exhibits will be displayed but no formal presentation will be given. Representatives of WisDOT will be available to discuss the proposed project and address any questions or concerns.

Roundabouts, says Wikipedia, are “a type of circular junction in which road traffic must travel in one direction around a central island. Signs usually direct traffic entering the circle to slow down and give the right of way to drivers already in the circle.” Traffic engineers say they are significantly safer than intersections that require some of the traffic to stop.

Roundabout placement has been controversial in some instances locally.

To the east along Highway C, the Bristol Village Board formally opposed a roundabout being placed at Highway 45 and Highway C.

The county did construct a roundabout at Highway C and MB in Bristol.

WisDOT’s most recent plans for reconstruction of the Highway K and 45 intersection along the Paris/Bristol border call for a roundabout.

A roundabout has been proposed by the state for the Highways 142/45 intersection in Paris. The Paris Town Board has formally opposed that plan.

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  1. Ughh says:

    I really hope that a roundabout at highways 83/75/50 was a typo! If that intersection gets a roundabout, accident rates will increase, although injuries will be less, but that will back traffic up for miles almost daily!

    1. Ugh — It was a typo. A roundabout is only proposed for Hwy 83 and C. Sorry about that.

  2. west jacobs says:

    IF they are going to do a round about and take care of C / 83 and 50/83 THEY BEST BE TAKING CARE OF “JF AND 83 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” DAMIT you all need to be looking at the WHOLE AREA!!!!

  3. Marge says:

    I hate them because no one slows down for the things like you are suppose to. If you slow down some one is right up your butt, think they are very unsafe. Coarse a lot of people will disagree with me on this one but I myself hate them. I think the state and towns, villages are getting nuts with roundabouts.

  4. Marge says:

    Typos are typical of west of the I. Still doe not matter typo or not these roundabouts are very dangerous. In this day people are always in a hurry and do not care about risking the lives of other people they have a one track mine me and only me cause I am in a hurry .
    Get up earlier give yourself more time on the highway instead of partying all night long. Be responsible.

  5. Ughh says:

    @Marge- you’re absolutely correct! People are in so much of a hurry these days. Roundabouts are a bad idea. If the state could just teach someone to stop at red lights and stop signs, roundabouts wouldn’t be necessary. Roundabouts are very confusing even for experienced drivers. Now add rush hour traffic at these intersections and although injuries will be less severe, the accident rate will go up…as will traffic backups leading drivers to take shortcuts through neighborhoods at high rates of speed!

  6. PJ says:

    Hope if they do make it a round-about at 45/C then they take better care of it then they do for the one at C/MB. You can’t see around due to the high weeds/grass.

  7. To PJ says:

    I see a fair amount of these new roundabouts. They have popped up to the south in Lake County over the last few years.

    It would be good if someone would confirm that the idea to ‘block’ the view across the roundabout is to direct your full attention to your left where the traffic that you are to ‘merge’ into is coming from. If you take a few minutes to think about what you are supposed to do it’s not really all that confusing.
    Just look to your left and at a speed of about 20 to 25 mph just keep going thru the yield sign into a space between the traffic going by.

    The whole idea is to keep moving and NOT come to a stop. If of course there is consistent traffic coming then of course you have to stop, but learn to pick your spot and try to keep going.
    ( Once you are ‘in’ you have the ‘Right of way’ and only have to exit where you want to and leave the worry of others getting ‘in’ to them)

    It’s not a whole lot different then merging onto the highway. ‘You’ are responsible to get up to speed to blend in with the cars that are already on the road. Its not their job to slow down for you, you are entering something that they are already on.

    So get with it and learn it. We all aren’t old dogs that can’t learn new tricks, are we?

  8. Scott Batson says:

    Modern roundabouts are the safest form of intersection in the world. Visit http://tinyurl.com/iihsRAB for modern roundabout FAQs and safety facts. Modern roundabouts, and the pedestrian refuge islands approaching them, are two of nine proven safety measures identified by the FHWA, http://tinyurl.com/7qvsaem
    The FHWA has a video about modern roundabouts that is mostly accurate (http://tinyurl.com/6v44a3x).
    The safety comes from the ‘slow and go’ operation instead of the ‘stop or go fast’ way a stop light works. The smaller size of properly designed modern roundabouts is what makes them safer and keeps speeds in the 20 mph range. This makes it much easier to avoid a crash or stop for pedestrians. It also means that if a crash happens the likelihood of injury is very low. Safety is the #1 reason there are over 3,500 modern roundabouts in the US today and many more on the way.
    Modern, slow and go, roundabout intersections have less delay than a stop light or stop sign (http://tinyurl.com/mythbustersRAB), especially the other 20 hours a day people aren’t driving to or from work. Average daily delay at a signal is around 12 seconds per car. At a modern roundabout average delay is less than five seconds. Signals take an hour of demand and restrict it to a half hour, at best only half the traffic gets to go at any one time. At a modern roundabout four drivers entering from four directions can all enter at the same time. Don’t try that with a signalized intersection.
    If you’re looking at the other side of a modern roundabout when you’re entering, you’re driving unsafely. Drivers entering a modern roundabout should first look for pedestrians, then watch for other motorists coming from the left and then watch for pedestrians when exiting. The motorist on the other side of the circle won’t get to you for 5 or ten seconds. Obscured views across the central island is one of the safety features.

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